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texas=nothing special
Topic Started: Oct 1 2006, 04:15 AM (1,628 Views)
Au Duong Phong	Oct 1 2006, 04:15 AM Post #1
15" 3x Champions Posts: 3,426 Group: FHRUS Founders Member #70 Joined: July 30, 2006	Why are Texas cichlids so hot to FH hobbyists? Even the regular green ones cost a grip from Thailand. Who says or thinks texas cichlids originate out of Thailand? Youre wrong! I think FHs are way more valuable than RTs. RTs are just texas cichlids that is red. I just don't get it wwohh
	The flowerhorn fishes are cool and beautiful, but the flowerhorn hobby is crap!


Bastardfish	Oct 1 2006, 10:58 AM Post #2
Big Daddy Fish Guts Posts: 3,812 Group: Team Universal Member #28 Joined: June 9, 2006	Good breeding stock! How do you think they good the pearls into your favorite FH Strains? its a beautiful thing
	How's your fish's Kung Fu?


Au Duong Phong	Oct 1 2006, 12:31 PM Post #3
15" 3x Champions Posts: 3,426 Group: FHRUS Founders Member #70 Joined: July 30, 2006	Yeah but that's flowerhorns. Texases are not FHs. I think only FH hobbyists that never kept cichlids see value in them texases. Theyre very pretty but they are all alike. And tex cichlids are easy to get. A red one is just orange/red and nothing more. They nice they nice they nice!! But the prices are so damn high and people still demand them. Poor people, for they not know they're waisting money, thinking it's some kind of special fish..
	The flowerhorn fishes are cool and beautiful, but the flowerhorn hobby is crap!


Paintsn	Oct 1 2006, 04:14 PM Post #4
>>>NeWbIe 4LiFe<<< Posts: 4,647 Group: Team RUS Member #2 Joined: June 2, 2006 Favorite Strain Kamfas Residence LoNg BeAcH, CaLi	Au Duong Phong Oct 1 2006, 12:31 PM Yeah but that's flowerhorns. Texases are not FHs. I think only FH hobbyists that never kept cichlids see value in them texases. Theyre very pretty but they are all alike. And tex cichlids are easy to get. A red one is just orange/red and nothing more. They nice they nice they nice!! But the prices are so damn high and people still demand them. Poor people, for they not know they're waisting money, thinking it's some kind of special fish.. Their is alot to it bro.. meaning making it to how it looks as of now.. but yes everyone has different taste and I am not goin to argue about that.. But yes Rt/Srt are now classified as flowerhorns.. thumbs up
	http://flowerhornrus.com/ SAD??? is seeing that wrinkled face in the mirror of a NOBODY and knowing that life is given by Borrowed Time, And to the Truth is, Being alive and not knowing how to LIVE... Now that is sad!!! ONE DAY CLOSER TO DEATH!!! So Therefore... My Dream is My Reality and My Reality is My Dream, And If I am in MY Reality, Then I could do So as I pleases AS in My DREAM!!! Paintings In MY MIND by PAINTSN Click Banner


Au Duong Phong	Oct 1 2006, 05:02 PM Post #5
15" 3x Champions Posts: 3,426 Group: FHRUS Founders Member #70 Joined: July 30, 2006	Yeah... True. Everyone got different tastes.. But they shouldn't cost so much though. Since theyre hybrided, I guess hobbyists can classify it as a FH. But to me it's just a red texas cichlid. they cost so damn much, and I think people are just mistaking at this point. I I I I I me me me think that if something more than just the red was added to a texas than the price would be reasonable. I would slap myself if I ever buy one for the outrageous price the market is selling for right now. I think the 2 orignal texas cichlids are very cool fish. The RT is much prettier.. FH hobbyists can classify the rt as a flowerhorn, but to me it is not a flowerhorn. It's a texas that is orange and nothing more. A bloody red one with nice pearls is great to own though. But not for a murdering price. Only if there was only one, two, or three RTs in the world then the price can not be argued. You rich with extra dough, then it aint no thing. But it don't mean jack how much you pay for your fish. It should be the fish that aaoooww Hybriding or adding texas genes to FHs is great, but putting it in the FH category is a down grade for the beautiful FHs. cryinbigtime
	The flowerhorn fishes are cool and beautiful, but the flowerhorn hobby is crap!


Au Duong Phong	Oct 1 2006, 05:17 PM Post #6
15" 3x Champions Posts: 3,426 Group: FHRUS Founders Member #70 Joined: July 30, 2006	I like them and nothing against them, but their price.
	The flowerhorn fishes are cool and beautiful, but the flowerhorn hobby is crap!


Flowerhornrus	Oct 1 2006, 05:59 PM Post #7
Administrator Posts: 4,997 Group: Admins Member #1 Joined: June 2, 2006 Favorite Strain Kamfas Residence LoNg BeAcH, Ca. (USA)	Au Duong Phong Oct 1 2006, 05:17 PM I like them and nothing against them, but their price. dont worry bro.. WTB a price of Free ... Homie luv.. cause mine are already pealing at .5 to 1inch!!!! thumbs up
	It takes 36 muscles to make a FROWN... But it ONLY takes ONE FISH to make a Smile!!!


Au Duong Phong	Oct 1 2006, 06:17 PM Post #8
15" 3x Champions Posts: 3,426 Group: FHRUS Founders Member #70 Joined: July 30, 2006	woohoo
	The flowerhorn fishes are cool and beautiful, but the flowerhorn hobby is crap!


Au Duong Phong	Nov 20 2006, 11:56 PM Post #9
15" 3x Champions Posts: 3,426 Group: FHRUS Founders Member #70 Joined: July 30, 2006	Red Texas Red texas Red texas Red texas Red texas!!! madredmad Just looked at AB and saw a bunch laughin rollin Why do some ppl like such a fish so much? In time... In time they will see that theyre waisting their money. laughin hard Only a true red, nice pearls, beautiful one is worth me keeping. And that I can't afford at the price today. And if I can afford it, I wouldnT even buy. Got better things to spend my money on than a fish that's common and keeps on coming with time. Most Rts I've seen look like crap anyways. A RT is easier to create than a low grade ZZ.. Don't get hooked like a fish. good luck
	The flowerhorn fishes are cool and beautiful, but the flowerhorn hobby is crap!


Bastardfish	Nov 21 2006, 12:02 AM Post #10
Big Daddy Fish Guts Posts: 3,812 Group: Team Universal Member #28 Joined: June 9, 2006	Don't HATE laughin hard
	How's your fish's Kung Fu?


Au Duong Phong	Nov 21 2006, 12:20 AM Post #11
15" 3x Champions Posts: 3,426 Group: FHRUS Founders Member #70 Joined: July 30, 2006	cool i dont know It's your money. Do as you like. Just giving my thoughts, and hopefully it would help some decide. Hey I might own one of the best ones OF Today or better 5 yrs from now. And probably having paid for it cheap.. 2 digits. Not 3,4,5 digits laughin hard . A nice juvie one. Why? Cuz they'll be all over. The ones I've been seeing are jokes to their price tags. Seemed like all qualities good and bad are kept to be sold cuz everyone is so crazy bout them. laughin hard Not mEEE! Not me. Thailand is straight out ripping U.S. FH hobbyists off. I will wait. Why should I pay hundreds and thousands for a common fish? Paint can make his own!!. laughin rollin
	The flowerhorn fishes are cool and beautiful, but the flowerhorn hobby is crap!


Bastardfish	Nov 21 2006, 12:26 AM Post #12
Big Daddy Fish Guts Posts: 3,812 Group: Team Universal Member #28 Joined: June 9, 2006	Well I will add this I do like FH much more. Take a good ZZ stain any day smiliee
	How's your fish's Kung Fu?


Au Duong Phong	Nov 21 2006, 12:37 AM Post #13
15" 3x Champions Posts: 3,426 Group: FHRUS Founders Member #70 Joined: July 30, 2006	Same here. But if they were the same price. I'd take a tRue Red RT with nice pearls. Gotta be nice though. Not messy like most of them. But as for now, I'd spend my money on any nice FH first b4 a current day RT.
	The flowerhorn fishes are cool and beautiful, but the flowerhorn hobby is crap!


Paintsn	Nov 21 2006, 02:38 AM Post #14
>>>NeWbIe 4LiFe<<< Posts: 4,647 Group: Team RUS Member #2 Joined: June 2, 2006 Favorite Strain Kamfas Residence LoNg BeAcH, CaLi	thinkingscratchingchin would you like to get technical on this thread...?? well for one.. red red rt, that fades and have certain type of patterns or pearls with noggins are the ones that should well worth the price.. to make everything plain and simple.. RT are also kamfas.. and some of them rt has that Kamfa quality that many wants bravo thumbs up this I state is that some of the so called Rt has kamfa traits and characteristics.. for instance like the one texas that i posted.. the breeder bred a pair and out came four different type offsprings I agree too that some of those so called Rt, faded or non faded are too expensive.. just do to the following= THE QUALITY..
	http://flowerhornrus.com/ SAD??? is seeing that wrinkled face in the mirror of a NOBODY and knowing that life is given by Borrowed Time, And to the Truth is, Being alive and not knowing how to LIVE... Now that is sad!!! ONE DAY CLOSER TO DEATH!!! So Therefore... My Dream is My Reality and My Reality is My Dream, And If I am in MY Reality, Then I could do So as I pleases AS in My DREAM!!! Paintings In MY MIND by PAINTSN Click Banner


Paintsn	Nov 21 2006, 02:40 AM Post #15
>>>NeWbIe 4LiFe<<< Posts: 4,647 Group: Team RUS Member #2 Joined: June 2, 2006 Favorite Strain Kamfas Residence LoNg BeAcH, CaLi	maybe you need to come over and see how those texas x mammon are turning out.. but hey did you see the ones johnny took from me?? well i guess he only kept one thinkingscratchingchin now
	http://flowerhornrus.com/ SAD??? is seeing that wrinkled face in the mirror of a NOBODY and knowing that life is given by Borrowed Time, And to the Truth is, Being alive and not knowing how to LIVE... Now that is sad!!! ONE DAY CLOSER TO DEATH!!! So Therefore... My Dream is My Reality and My Reality is My Dream, And If I am in MY Reality, Then I could do So as I pleases AS in My DREAM!!! Paintings In MY MIND by PAINTSN Click Banner


Au Duong Phong	Nov 21 2006, 04:49 AM Post #16
15" 3x Champions Posts: 3,426 Group: FHRUS Founders Member #70 Joined: July 30, 2006	Johnny's RT. I saw it today. It's still little. Like two inches. That guy knows how to keep fish man. They all got their own tank. Not dived space like how mines used to be. RTs. It's cool to have the fish you want. But if you think again. There are other fish or things you want or need that are more worth your money.. That's probably is my point. More RTs will be available later for you to choose at a better price... Better ones. People always strive to improve right? And as long as consumers keep buying those Ugly RTs for those funny prices, the price for better ones will go higher as they come out.. If they were rare then that's all different. I would'nt see things the way I do now. But theyre not.. Well, the prices for those common fishes are too wierd for me. Just wanna share my thoughts. Not to make RT lovers hate RTs or anything. I think theyre one of the best cichlids.
	The flowerhorn fishes are cool and beautiful, but the flowerhorn hobby is crap!


Flowerhornrus	Nov 21 2006, 05:14 AM Post #17
Administrator Posts: 4,997 Group: Admins Member #1 Joined: June 2, 2006 Favorite Strain Kamfas Residence LoNg BeAcH, Ca. (USA)	true...for i love the pure texas species too.. at times more than the hybrid ones well their money not mine..thats why i care less.. but if bought due to quality and rareness.. i give it a thumbs up
	It takes 36 muscles to make a FROWN... But it ONLY takes ONE FISH to make a Smile!!!


Flowerhornrus	Nov 21 2006, 05:15 AM Post #18
Administrator Posts: 4,997 Group: Admins Member #1 Joined: June 2, 2006 Favorite Strain Kamfas Residence LoNg BeAcH, Ca. (USA)	ooh by the way.. i think its not johnny that's raising them..its his parents.. laughin rollin laughin rollin just playin johnny boy..since you barely in the state to care for them.. smiliee
	It takes 36 muscles to make a FROWN... But it ONLY takes ONE FISH to make a Smile!!!


Au Duong Phong	Nov 23 2006, 01:13 AM Post #19
15" 3x Champions Posts: 3,426 Group: FHRUS Founders Member #70 Joined: July 30, 2006	Flowerhornrus Nov 21 2006, 04:14 AM true...for i love the pure texas species too.. at times more than the hybrid ones well their money not mine..thats why i care less.. but if bought due to quality and rareness.. i give it a thumbs up If it's rare and look nice, I'll pay the WoRthy price if I can. Must be trully something special. Seen none yet except for Sonny's Super pretty SRT. But a fish like that would cost a genital. Call me cheap, but I do have a brain. There are plenty of other fishes in the ocean.
	The flowerhorn fishes are cool and beautiful, but the flowerhorn hobby is crap!


armac	Dec 31 2006, 07:17 AM Post #20
1" Frys Posts: 182 Group: FHRUS Founders Member #142 Joined: October 18, 2006	I catch wild Texas cichlids in the ditch near my house. The wild ones have better color and a longer streamlined shape. The red ones are hybrid.



ajb	Dec 31 2006, 09:24 AM Post #21
Zygotes Posts: 73 Group: Team Universal Member #276 Joined: December 30, 2006	Au Duong Phong Nov 21 2006, 03:49 AM RTs. It's cool to have the fish you want. But if you think again. There are other fish or things you want or need that are more worth your money.. That's probably is my point. I understand your point here, but That could be said about any part of this hobby. or any hobby for that matter. I am really confused by this thread. You say at one point, even if you could afford one, you wouldnt get it. Then in another post, you say if a ZZ and a SRT were the same price, you would take the SRT. I have 2 RTs, one faded and one not faded. They are both great fish, and worth the money I spent on them (which wasnt all that much). The non faded one looks like a carpinte, yes, but with much brighter pearls and is overall a much bigger fish. So really, they cannot be compared.



Skinnychinaman	Dec 31 2006, 12:11 PM Post #22
1" Frys Posts: 114 Group: FHRUS Founders Member #15 Joined: June 5, 2006	I agree with you that texas is nothing special.. but again, the chance to get a supre red texas that are fully red with kok is EXTREMELY RARE! I just can't stand when someone selling regular carpinitas or green texas for hundreds of dollars.. that is just to funny... on the other hand, I understand why SRT cost so much because they are so hard to breed and turn out to look the way they do. if you think about it., it may be true that there are a couple hundred of srt on the market now.. but very little have a nice kok.. and not only that.. can you imaging how many frys they have to hatch to get those few hundred? I am talking about in the millions!
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Au Duong Phong	Dec 31 2006, 08:13 PM Post #23
15" 3x Champions Posts: 3,426 Group: FHRUS Founders Member #70 Joined: July 30, 2006	Theyre nothing special because of the prices. A true red, big head, nice fins RT is more reasonable.. That I think is an ideal RT and of course would pick over a ZZ if they were the same price. There are many ZZs too. Just like RTs, some are nice, some are ugly. A beautiful fish is what matters most. Young juvie RTs that are orange, sloppy pearls, and no signs of kok being sold for 4-5 hundred+ just because it's orange is unacceptable for me. I'd pay that price if the little juvie has it all.
	The flowerhorn fishes are cool and beautiful, but the flowerhorn hobby is crap!


1cichlid	Apr 12 2007, 09:06 AM Post #24
Unregistered	I like both..I think like now people targeting big KOK and Fh is the idea..Beleive or not in the next couple years people will start looking for skin not pearls though..Skin of the fish will be the next target ..Kok,body ,skin,...... FH very exciting to look at ..but i always die for classic RT with nice skin and pearls slowly move in the middle of the tank spread fins and tail. I can watch them all day. The price always come first these day..But one day people will start looking for quality to come first and that day the price will never fool them. Tom
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dcfrmhb	Apr 18 2007, 11:05 AM Post #25
Unregistered	Try to breed some red texas.. Then you will realize why the nice ones are expensive. I first started breeding them with a green texas and red parrot. Out of two ponds only about 5 fish had peeled completely and had pearls also. I have a pond right now. They are still young. Only about 3 months, but so far I only have 1 fish that peeled completely red, and has the pearls still. These are first generation red texas, and the percentage of real good ones with the first generation is minimal...In order to make higher quality, one has to go for 2nd or 3rd generation, and so on.. Meaning, for example I take one of the baby red texas males and then breed it again with a king kong parrot.. so where as the first generation, the father which was a green texas had no genes for red, now the 2nd generation the father would have roughly 2 out of 4 parts genes for red. Not taking into consideration the traits of said fish, and taking into consideration whether the red traits are dominate or recessive. Now finding a male SRT that is also fertile is almost impossible, the percentage is very low. I tried with some of the red texas fry when the got bigger, with no luck. So now I purchased a male breeder big head SRT from the eagle, and if I can get this fish to spawn with my king kong, or my female SRT it will make at minimum 3rd generation off spring, which should make the majority of fry red and loaded with pearls, with some even to have a chance for a large head. I also purchased from exotictrading the super red texas breeding pair, which should also make nice fry.. But I think the reason they are expensive, is where you can basically spawn flowerhorns in a toilet bowl, you have to work much harder at breeding high quality SRT. I will tell you this, if I can get the fish to spawn that I have right now, I would be suprised if anyone in the state would have a higher quality breeding pair for SRT, and I will have thousands of fry..
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