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Here it is again hehe.; GM or ZZ
Topic Started: Nov 24 2007, 06:47 AM (1,719 Views)
Jam420	Dec 17 2007, 11:20 PM Post #26
4" Juvies Posts: 435 Group: Team Universal Member #31 Joined: June 11, 2006	anyways, you can learn from anyone you want. im sorry some people are gullible
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Paintsn	Dec 18 2007, 12:36 AM Post #27
>>>NeWbIe 4LiFe<<< Posts: 6,794 Group: Team RUS Member #2 Joined: June 2, 2006 Favorite Strain Kamfas Residence LoNg BeAcH, CaLi	so there is no more gm females?? what about a female gm that i got from sonny since FHRUS wasnt even existed.. since she is alive.. could i still call her a female gm?? man i dont even know how old she is now.. been too long duh 2 and.. she is recovering nicely now.. her pearls are actually coming back.. for it was lost when a friend borrowed for breeding.. but yeah even its a female.. i could still see a difference
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Jam420	Dec 18 2007, 06:35 AM Post #28
4" Juvies Posts: 435 Group: Team Universal Member #31 Joined: June 11, 2006	Paintsn Dec 17 2007, 11:36 PM so there is no more gm females?? what about a female gm that i got from sonny since FHRUS wasnt even existed.. since she is alive.. could i still call her a female gm?? man i dont even know how old she is now.. been too long duh 2 and.. she is recovering nicely now.. her pearls are actually coming back.. for it was lost when a friend borrowed for breeding.. but yeah even its a female.. i could still see a difference hmm.... it cannot be true that there is no more GM females. How many batches of GM were bred? and how many can be in each batch that comes out female? Thats a few hundred. I believe the mother of the King Golden Monkey bloodline may be dead. But they have also kamalau, kamfamalau, ipoh malau. and other types of malau. Those are not the same female that was used in producing the KGM from Holland23.com It was also said that when one saw the original KGM line, There jaws dropped with awe and anyone who did see it can see that it is indeed not a ZZ breed because no zz breed could ever breed out to looks like the KGM. So for someone to say GM breed is just pearly zz bred together is simply not experienced or just naive. Just tell me, How can a person talk about current news without listening to the news or reading a newspaper. haha. Its like a baby teaching a adult how to drive a car. can you actually believe the words out of Ms. Chen's mouth? one needs to ask themselves. Have this guys seen what is available in the market? or have this guy been to kamfamalau farm? What is the statements based on? How can someone tell me to understand false info. Really, why should i listen to someone that preaches out wrong info.
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Bigg Dogg	Dec 18 2007, 06:43 AM Post #29
FLOWERHORN'R'US Posts: 3,058 Group: Global Moderators/ Team RUS Member #22 Joined: June 7, 2006 Favorite Strain NONE of The ABOVE Residence Long Beach, CA	Sorry guys, what about these fish. What do they look like to you...GM or ZZ I know what they call it, but what you think it is?? thinkingscratchingchin
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artum06	Dec 18 2007, 07:43 AM Post #30
Zygotes Posts: 38 Group: Members Member #5,857 Joined: November 17, 2007	Jam420 Dec 18 2007, 05:35 AM Paintsn Dec 17 2007, 11:36 PM so there is no more gm females?? what about a female gm that i got from sonny since FHRUS wasnt even existed.. since she is alive.. could i still call her a female gm?? man i dont even know how old she is now.. been too long duh 2 and.. she is recovering nicely now.. her pearls are actually coming back.. for it was lost when a friend borrowed for breeding.. but yeah even its a female.. i could still see a difference hmm.... it cannot be true that there is no more GM females. How many batches of GM were bred? and how many can be in each batch that comes out female? Thats a few hundred. I believe the mother of the King Golden Monkey bloodline may be dead. But they have also kamalau, kamfamalau, ipoh malau. and other types of malau. Those are not the same female that was used in producing the KGM from Holland23.com It was also said that when one saw the original KGM line, There jaws dropped with awe and anyone who did see it can see that it is indeed not a ZZ breed because no zz breed could ever breed out to looks like the KGM. So for someone to say GM breed is just pearly zz bred together is simply not experienced or just naive. Just tell me, How can a person talk about current news without listening to the news or reading a newspaper. haha. Its like a baby teaching a adult how to drive a car. can you actually believe the words out of Ms. Chen's mouth? one needs to ask themselves. Have this guys seen what is available in the market? or have this guy been to kamfamalau farm? What is the statements based on? How can someone tell me to understand false info. Really, why should i listen to someone that preaches out wrong info. bam bam angel and devil



FlowerHornRus	Dec 18 2007, 09:35 AM Post #31
Administrator Posts: 7,618 Group: Admins Member #1 Joined: June 2, 2006 Favorite Strain Kamfas Residence LoNg BeAcH, Ca. (USA)	knowledge is key and Ignorancy will kill and only causes confusions thumbs up this here is a valuable thread.. so please take notes.. and many more that are on here across the forum too .. so its best to copy and save it bravo its a beautiful thing where are my data teams at??? laughin rollin
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artum06	Dec 18 2007, 12:24 PM Post #32
Zygotes Posts: 38 Group: Members Member #5,857 Joined: November 17, 2007	Flowerhornrus Dec 18 2007, 08:35 AM knowledge is key and Ignorancy will kill and only causes confusions thumbs up this here is a valuable thread.. so please take notes.. and many more that are on here across the forum too .. so its best to copy and save it bravo its a beautiful thing where are my data teams at??? laughin rollin you're the best confused duh laughin hard



Lucky	Dec 18 2007, 02:21 PM Post #33
15" 3x Champions Posts: 7,385 Group: Global Advisors Member #708 Joined: March 5, 2007	Jam420 Dec 18 2007, 05:35 AM Paintsn Dec 17 2007, 11:36 PM so there is no more gm females?? what about a female gm that i got from sonny since FHRUS wasnt even existed.. since she is alive.. could i still call her a female gm?? man i dont even know how old she is now.. been too long duh 2 and.. she is recovering nicely now.. her pearls are actually coming back.. for it was lost when a friend borrowed for breeding.. but yeah even its a female.. i could still see a difference hmm.... it cannot be true that there is no more GM females. How many batches of GM were bred? and how many can be in each batch that comes out female? Thats a few hundred. I believe the mother of the King Golden Monkey bloodline may be dead. But they have also kamalau, kamfamalau, ipoh malau. and other types of malau. Those are not the same female that was used in producing the KGM from Holland23.com It was also said that when one saw the original KGM line, There jaws dropped with awe and anyone who did see it can see that it is indeed not a ZZ breed because no zz breed could ever breed out to looks like the KGM. So for someone to say GM breed is just pearly zz bred together is simply not experienced or just naive. Just tell me, How can a person talk about current news without listening to the news or reading a newspaper. haha. Its like a baby teaching a adult how to drive a car. can you actually believe the words out of Ms. Chen's mouth? one needs to ask themselves. Have this guys seen what is available in the market? or have this guy been to kamfamalau farm? What is the statements based on? How can someone tell me to understand false info. Really, why should i listen to someone that preaches out wrong info. Awesome news! Pure GM breeders still around. daance Thought most if not all pure GM died. My bad. Thanks for the correction. I like the way in Malay they designate all the new GM lines. Pretty cool. GM changes like General Motors. New model cars all the time. Really have to pick through the litter carefully to find one with classic looks. *I think I should note that Taiwanese & Malaysian breeders have had a sour path for a long long time. Frankly the birth of FH was an accident. Malay breeders tried to create Taiwan's profitable parrot cichlid. Their project burned then from the ashes FH was born. Imagine if both sides of the faction worked together??? Doubt it. For the sake of humor in regard to this ongoing painful issue: If you have seen a picture of Chen & Sonny you will get a kick out of this... picture them now water-skiing side by side wearing speedos & shades in the hot sunshine with GMs and FF jumping out of the water as they ski through the waves. Now as you picture all that add the Hawaii Five-O theme song. Need help hearing the theme song? http://www.poetv.com/video.php?vid=14900 bam bam angel and devil



Jam420	Dec 18 2007, 04:43 PM Post #34
4" Juvies Posts: 435 Group: Team Universal Member #31 Joined: June 11, 2006	artum06 Dec 18 2007, 06:43 AM Jam420 Dec 18 2007, 05:35 AM Paintsn Dec 17 2007, 11:36 PM so there is no more gm females?? what about a female gm that i got from sonny since FHRUS wasnt even existed.. since she is alive.. could i still call her a female gm?? man i dont even know how old she is now.. been too long duh 2 and.. she is recovering nicely now.. her pearls are actually coming back.. for it was lost when a friend borrowed for breeding.. but yeah even its a female.. i could still see a difference hmm.... it cannot be true that there is no more GM females. How many batches of GM were bred? and how many can be in each batch that comes out female? Thats a few hundred. I believe the mother of the King Golden Monkey bloodline may be dead. But they have also kamalau, kamfamalau, ipoh malau. and other types of malau. Those are not the same female that was used in producing the KGM from Holland23.com It was also said that when one saw the original KGM line, There jaws dropped with awe and anyone who did see it can see that it is indeed not a ZZ breed because no zz breed could ever breed out to looks like the KGM. So for someone to say GM breed is just pearly zz bred together is simply not experienced or just naive. Just tell me, How can a person talk about current news without listening to the news or reading a newspaper. haha. Its like a baby teaching a adult how to drive a car. can you actually believe the words out of Ms. Chen's mouth? one needs to ask themselves. Have this guys seen what is available in the market? or have this guy been to kamfamalau farm? What is the statements based on? How can someone tell me to understand false info. Really, why should i listen to someone that preaches out wrong info. bam bam angel and devil haha Artum is under Ms. Chen's Love potion.
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Sonny	Dec 19 2007, 04:07 AM Post #35
*Great "O" Master* Posts: 1,876 Group: Global Advisors Member #23 Joined: June 7, 2006	frankly, that ms chen is a shame to the fh community if not at the US but to the founding land of fh - mal. thumbs down tell me, which country hobbyists like mal, spore or indo do agree with his lousy statement each time he said his fish is a 'GM'? thinkingscratchingchin do not take my words for granted. if the next time he ever posted any of his breed so called 'GM', please do link or repost it at the spore or indo forum & find out the answer yourself. so finally, what is his intention?... if you guys were to found out that his fish ain't a GM 6 months later? you tell me..... madredmad



artum06	Dec 19 2007, 04:50 AM Post #36
Zygotes Posts: 38 Group: Members Member #5,857 Joined: November 17, 2007	Jam420 Dec 18 2007, 03:43 PM artum06 Dec 18 2007, 06:43 AM Jam420 Dec 18 2007, 05:35 AM Paintsn Dec 17 2007, 11:36 PM so there is no more gm females?? what about a female gm that i got from sonny since FHRUS wasnt even existed.. since she is alive.. could i still call her a female gm?? man i dont even know how old she is now.. been too long duh 2 and.. she is recovering nicely now.. her pearls are actually coming back.. for it was lost when a friend borrowed for breeding.. but yeah even its a female.. i could still see a difference hmm.... it cannot be true that there is no more GM females. How many batches of GM were bred? and how many can be in each batch that comes out female? Thats a few hundred. I believe the mother of the King Golden Monkey bloodline may be dead. But they have also kamalau, kamfamalau, ipoh malau. and other types of malau. Those are not the same female that was used in producing the KGM from Holland23.com It was also said that when one saw the original KGM line, There jaws dropped with awe and anyone who did see it can see that it is indeed not a ZZ breed because no zz breed could ever breed out to looks like the KGM. So for someone to say GM breed is just pearly zz bred together is simply not experienced or just naive. Just tell me, How can a person talk about current news without listening to the news or reading a newspaper. haha. Its like a baby teaching a adult how to drive a car. can you actually believe the words out of Ms. Chen's mouth? one needs to ask themselves. Have this guys seen what is available in the market? or have this guy been to kamfamalau farm? What is the statements based on? How can someone tell me to understand false info. Really, why should i listen to someone that preaches out wrong info. bam bam angel and devil haha Artum is under Ms. Chen's Love potion. Yes,i am,but how you know about that potion or what kind the potion you need?may be,................potion. confused laughin hard



artum06	Dec 19 2007, 05:16 AM Post #37
Zygotes Posts: 38 Group: Members Member #5,857 Joined: November 17, 2007	Sonny Dec 19 2007, 03:07 AM frankly, that ms chen is a shame to the fh community if not at the US but to the founding land of fh - mal. thumbs down tell me, which country hobbyists like mal, spore or indo do agree with his lousy statement each time he said his fish is a 'GM'? thinkingscratchingchin do not take my words for granted. if the next time he ever posted any of his breed so called 'GM', please do link or repost it at the spore or indo forum & find out the answer yourself. so finally, what is his intention?... if you guys were to found out that his fish ain't a GM 6 months later? you tell me..... madredmad bravo Sonny what you understand when we talking about the REAL GOLDEN MONKEY? -what you understand when we talking about IN THE MARKET? -what you understand when we talking about BUSINESS? CAN BE OBJECTIVE,please. NOW,no necesarilly everyone have to be accordance with Mr.Chen,is like you,no necesarilly everyone have to BE ACCORDANCE WITH YOU AND YOU ATTITUD. wwohh



Bigg Dogg	Dec 19 2007, 06:49 AM Post #38
FLOWERHORN'R'US Posts: 3,058 Group: Global Moderators/ Team RUS Member #22 Joined: June 7, 2006 Favorite Strain NONE of The ABOVE Residence Long Beach, CA	I've read a similar thread like this at Fhusa and it seem like no one wants to learn or seem to care. splat Everything is a ZZ to them now a days nonono saaaaaddddd sadwithtears Shall we compare the two again.. ZZ GM Still think GM and ZZ are the same??? Lets us compare the face, body, fins, tail, gills, pearls, mouth, color, tail bone..etc. smiliee Alright who would like to start?? If you don't see any differences between the two, then there's something definitely worng with your eyes. smiliee
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artum06	Dec 19 2007, 12:11 PM Post #39
Zygotes Posts: 38 Group: Members Member #5,857 Joined: November 17, 2007	Bigg Dogg Dec 19 2007, 05:49 AM I've read a similar thread like this at Fhusa and it seem like no one wants to learn or seem to care. splat Everything is a ZZ to them now a days nonono saaaaaddddd sadwithtears Shall we compare the two again.. ZZ GM Still think GM and ZZ are the same??? Lets us compare the face, body, fins, tail, gills, pearls, mouth, color, tail bone..etc. smiliee Alright who would like to start?? If you don't see any differences between the two, then there's something definitely worng with your eyes. smiliee Bro, Like that,we can see the different nothing is wrong with our eyes,but I saw higth quality of ZZ look like JAY JAY,i saw many ZZmalau look like GM,i saw many GM look like ZZmalau, i saw many higth quality of ZZ look like GM etc,so FOR ME your pictures is not good way to compare..... My friend don't break your head,don't let some people to confuse you,go to the other forum and read carefuly Mr.Chen thread,(don't bring just a little piece of the context overhere) is just interpretation.When he said Kamalau is ZZ he is talking about his fish you don't have to assume all Kamalau is ZZ. For example,about Mineral Stones: Mr.James said that: life of the stones................. It should last 4 years plus minus depending on the AMOUNT OF WATER CHANGES. But according to the factory,it should last 4 years because we only take out 20% of the water during water changes.................. Now,the according with that,I have to assume "those Mineral Stones can FEEL HOW MUCH MINERALS MY WATER NEED" ?......yes or not? you can see is just interpretation. IF you want talking about of KGM,ZZ,INDOZZ,ZZMALAU,SML,RD,BD,KF,KFM,EVOLUTION or wherever you want to call them,you need open other thread and let the expert talk.thanks MERRY CHRISTMAS. cheer up



Jam420	Dec 19 2007, 05:03 PM Post #40
4" Juvies Posts: 435 Group: Team Universal Member #31 Joined: June 11, 2006	bravo you must not understand that of course a hybrid can exhibit characteristics of both side or one side. Do you think if you mix two types of zz it will look like a GM? think brother please post up pictures of a zz that look like my GM. laughin rollin
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cptpuma	Dec 22 2007, 11:27 PM Post #41
9" Adults Posts: 983 Group: Members Member #4,231 Joined: September 15, 2007	zz fo sure



Panda831	Jul 5 2010, 04:41 PM Post #42
Zygotes Posts: 70 Group: Members Member #12,905 Joined: July 5, 2010 Favorite Strain ALL of The ABOVE! Residence Seaside/Marina Ca (USA)	too me that looks like a Zz



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