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How to grade ZZ flowerhorn?; AAA,AA,A,B or C
Topic Started: Jan 16 2008, 08:44 PM (3,216 Views)
Lucky	Jan 19 2008, 03:40 PM Post #26
15" 3x Champions Posts: 4,085 Group: Global Advisors Member #708 Joined: March 5, 2007	This one is pretty well balanced & is good illustration of your graph... not my favorite pic, but shows what your talkin about... especially the pearls in/around flowerline/flowers... Grade A - flowerline should be more than 75% to 100%. 1. Kok - the bigger the better. 2. Colors - the more solid & colorful the better. 3. Body - the stout & thicker the better. 4. Finnage & Tail - Balance & proportion. 5. Flowerline - the darker & more shiny pearls surround it the better.



lorence	Jan 19 2008, 09:30 PM Post #27
Zygotes Posts: 58 Group: Members Member #1,820 Joined: May 23, 2007	thats a really good example lucky. thanks for sharing



chanceenfate	Jan 20 2008, 07:31 PM Post #28
6" Juvies Posts: 622 Group: Members Member #6,322 Joined: December 3, 2007	Lucky Jan 19 2008, 02:40 PM This one is pretty well balanced & is good illustration of your graph... not my favorite pic, but shows what your talkin about... especially the pearls in/around flowerline/flowers... Grade A - flowerline should be more than 75% to 100%. 1. Kok - the bigger the better. 2. Colors - the more solid & colorful the better. 3. Body - the stout & thicker the better. 4. Finnage & Tail - Balance & proportion. 5. Flowerline - the darker & more shiny pearls surround it the better. for the info Lucky thumbs up that helped alot
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cktanPenang	Jan 20 2008, 08:51 PM Post #29
10" Masterpieces Posts: 1,051 Group: Members Member #4,829 Joined: October 9, 2007	for the info bro Lucky, thumbs up youdaman
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Sonny	Jan 21 2008, 01:12 AM Post #30
Great "O" Master Posts: 1,571 Group: Global Advisors Member #23 Joined: June 7, 2006	Jam420 Jan 17 2008, 06:44 AM NiceFishHomie Jan 16 2008, 11:18 PM I have another curiousity question so from A you go to AA then to AAA what abuot if you start with C so it goes to CC and to CCC? i think they throw away the C'ssss hehe yup, most of time breeders will throw away the Cs & Bs too unless they are the very best few pieces...



Sonny	Jan 21 2008, 01:14 AM Post #31
Great "O" Master Posts: 1,571 Group: Global Advisors Member #23 Joined: June 7, 2006	NiceFishHomie Jan 18 2008, 01:09 AM flowerless zzmalau with 1-5 for a showdown I got you again with another tough question before i answer your tough question, can you show me a flowerless ZZ pic?



Sonny	Jan 21 2008, 01:16 AM Post #32
Great "O" Master Posts: 1,571 Group: Global Advisors Member #23 Joined: June 7, 2006	xMrXSauX Jan 19 2008, 09:27 AM Sonny if i only could have you over here to help me CUll fish HEHEHEHE laughin rollin keep breeding & you will get there later.... smiliee



Sonny	Jan 21 2008, 01:18 AM Post #33
Great "O" Master Posts: 1,571 Group: Global Advisors Member #23 Joined: June 7, 2006	Lucky Jan 19 2008, 02:40 PM This one is pretty well balanced & is good illustration of your graph... not my favorite pic, but shows what your talkin about... especially the pearls in/around flowerline/flowers... Grade A - flowerline should be more than 75% to 100%. 1. Kok - the bigger the better. 2. Colors - the more solid & colorful the better. 3. Body - the stout & thicker the better. 4. Finnage & Tail - Balance & proportion. 5. Flowerline - the darker & more shiny pearls surround it the better. bingo! thanks for the pic, Lucky. that's what i mean..... smiliee



lil wild bill	Jan 21 2008, 01:27 PM Post #34
>>>NeWbIe 4LiFe<<< Posts: 148 Group: FHRUS Founders Member #40 Joined: June 19, 2006	Thanks for the info because I didn't know that i dont know youdaman



flowerhorns.net	Jan 21 2008, 08:19 PM Post #35
Zygotes Posts: 62 Group: FHRUS Founders Member #151 Joined: October 24, 2006	darn school is in session, I better pay attention! Uh oh, I forgot my pencil! splat
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Lucky	Jan 21 2008, 08:29 PM Post #36
15" 3x Champions Posts: 4,085 Group: Global Advisors Member #708 Joined: March 5, 2007	flowerhorns.net Jan 21 2008, 07:19 PM darn school is in session, I better pay attention! Uh oh, I forgot my pencil! splat My your being modest flowerhorns.net smiliee I really like Sonny pointing out the pearlscale outlining for flowers. I don't like dull flowers myself. thumbs up



NiceFishHomie	Jan 22 2008, 08:05 AM Post #37
15" 3x Champions Posts: 1,582 Group: FHRUS Founders Member #26 Joined: June 8, 2006 Favorite Strain GM/KGM/Malau Residence Stockton 209	Sonny Jan 21 2008, 12:14 AM NiceFishHomie Jan 18 2008, 01:09 AM flowerless zzmalau with 1-5 for a showdown I got you again with another tough question before i answer your tough question, can you show me a flowerless ZZ pic? I don't have picture but I do know they exist from logic and deductive reasoning. If 1 dot zz fh exist, I'm sure a no flower do exist. If not then how do you explain the flowerless category in them competition? Both have upper and lower extreem to what people calling beauty. In keno, you pick 15 numbers and you hit all, u win jackpot. You hit 0 and you still win something So in fh, you get 100% full row and you hit jackpot. You get 0 flower and you too will win for that is a really really rare piece. I hope I'm going somewhere with such thought and concept for I don't really know much either. Student asking to learn. Please teach if you may.



Sonny	Jan 23 2008, 08:27 PM Post #38
Great "O" Master Posts: 1,571 Group: Global Advisors Member #23 Joined: June 7, 2006	NiceFishHomie Jan 22 2008, 07:05 AM Sonny Jan 21 2008, 12:14 AM NiceFishHomie Jan 18 2008, 01:09 AM flowerless zzmalau with 1-5 for a showdown I got you again with another tough question before i answer your tough question, can you show me a flowerless ZZ pic? I don't have picture but I do know they exist from logic and deductive reasoning. If 1 dot zz fh exist, I'm sure a no flower do exist. If not then how do you explain the flowerless category in them competition? Both have upper and lower extreem to what people calling beauty. In keno, you pick 15 numbers and you hit all, u win jackpot. You hit 0 and you still win something So in fh, you get 100% full row and you hit jackpot. You get 0 flower and you too will win for that is a really really rare piece. I hope I'm going somewhere with such thought and concept for I don't really know much either. Student asking to learn. Please teach if you may. you are right. most of the time a single/lil dot on the end of caudal peduncle, many would still classified it as a flowerless. but a 100% flowerless is rare. as for those flowerless category, it was meant to be no flowers other than the dot. sorry for i dunno much about Keno but i do know i did hit the jackpot if i got a AAAAA.... thumbs up



jimms	Feb 3 2008, 11:43 PM Post #39
2" Frys Posts: 207 Group: Members Member #5,605 Joined: November 8, 2007	@sonny Bro, you're a fh genius! hehehe where is our location right now? i'm from the philippines....



Paintsn	Feb 4 2008, 02:57 AM Post #40
>>>NeWbIe 4LiFe<<< Posts: 4,652 Group: Team RUS Member #2 Joined: June 2, 2006 Favorite Strain Kamfas Residence LoNg BeAcH, CaLi	Sonny Jan 23 2008, 07:27 PM sorry for i dunno much about Keno but i do know i did hit the jackpot if i got a AAAAA.... thumbs up hahahahhaha,,.. laughin rollin laughin hard bam bam angel and devil thats a good one.. you got me there big bro.. always got a great sense bravo wow its a beautiful thing hmmm. .. id say most golden based zz, or faded kamfas would be the one with no flowers smiliee i dont know guess need to get some pics up
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wildimage	Feb 5 2008, 12:27 PM Post #41
* Bionic Biker Chickyta* Posts: 3,948 Group: Global Moderators/ Team RUS Member #455 Joined: January 31, 2007 Favorite Strain ALL of The ABOVE!!!!!	What about under the chin of a FH...dont know what its called, but when it doesnt come out and doesnt flow with bottom of the fish...( making fish balanced, more rounded from under the chin flowing towards the belly).
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Phily235	Feb 6 2008, 08:57 AM Post #42
2" Frys Posts: 224 Group: Dynamic Team Member #1,036 Joined: March 31, 2007	Great information its a beautiful thing I have a question, can a B or C class FH produces AAA or A class fry? What is the chance for a batch to have a AAA class FH and how big will the fry have to grow before you can recognize the potential in order to classify them?



Paintsn	Feb 6 2008, 09:26 AM Post #43
>>>NeWbIe 4LiFe<<< Posts: 4,652 Group: Team RUS Member #2 Joined: June 2, 2006 Favorite Strain Kamfas Residence LoNg BeAcH, CaLi	Phily235 Feb 6 2008, 07:57 AM Great information its a beautiful thing I have a question, can a B or C class FH produces AAA or A class fry? What is the chance for a batch to have a AAA class FH and how big will the fry have to grow before you can recognize the potential in order to classify them? well im not no master nor a genius at that..hahah.. but from past experiences.. i did a low grade classic Fh and the frys came out better than the parents.. but then again i think many things comes to play.. such as housing and feedings does take great affects on newly hatched .. just like babies.. they are more prone to alot of things.. well lets see.. i got a pic this is my first FH..THE FATHER and here is one of his son the mother was also a low grade and on top of it, it was the FAther's sis.. and right there is a key to breeding, if you know what i mean but this was an accidental thing.. i knew nothing of Fh and or how to raise them when it happened..ahahah im sorry chances for anything to happen.. i would base it on genetic..never know what coding they have..so anything is possible in my book... but i believe more likely if you breed HQ and with some more luck..your chances would be greater.. Isnt that what selective breeding is all about i'm lost about how big till able to recognize I would say.. it depends on the strains.. different strains develop differently and also .. depends who is the judge.. beginner, novice or expert.. as in life.. we live and we learn.. some are more special on certain subject as others.. but we all could achieve and gain that knowledge if we keep on being persistant.. ( I think) .. we all got different eyes smiliee not sure if i make any sense..for i havent slept for almost two days laughin rollin duh duh 2 wwohh
	http://flowerhornrus.com/ SAD??? is seeing that wrinkled face in the mirror of a NOBODY and knowing that life is given by Borrowed Time, And to the Truth is, Being alive and not knowing how to LIVE... Now that is sad!!! ONE DAY CLOSER TO DEATH!!! So Therefore... My Dream is My Reality and My Reality is My Dream, And If I am in MY Reality, Then I could do So as I pleases AS in My DREAM!!! Paintings In MY MIND by PAINTSN Click Banner


Sonny	Feb 11 2008, 07:57 PM Post #44
Great "O" Master Posts: 1,571 Group: Global Advisors Member #23 Joined: June 7, 2006	wildimage Feb 5 2008, 11:27 AM What about under the chin of a FH...dont know what its called, but when it doesnt come out and doesnt flow with bottom of the fish...( making fish balanced, more rounded from under the chin flowing towards the belly). the chin of a fish is known as a Isthmus which is located right after the gill juncture. you are right on the protruding part which makes the fhs more balance & rounder. a well cared & thicker body fh will tends to have these character. maybe it is the same as what a fatter human is always with a chubby cheek..... smiliee



Sonny	Feb 11 2008, 08:17 PM Post #45
Great "O" Master Posts: 1,571 Group: Global Advisors Member #23 Joined: June 7, 2006	Phily235 Feb 6 2008, 07:57 AM Great information its a beautiful thing I have a question, can a B or C class FH produces AAA or A class fry? What is the chance for a batch to have a AAA class FH and how big will the fry have to grow before you can recognize the potential in order to classify them? no, i don't think so a B or C to produce a AAA because the genetics (kok, colors, body, finnages & pearls) on those B or C was just ain't the best as in AAA though they may be brothers. the percentage of a AAAs in a batch of course varies from breeders to breeders. the highest percentage is about 5% & some even at 0.5%. do not believe in any breeders trying to tell you that their breed of AAAs is 20 or 30%. to the breeders, they could recognize a 1.5" fry AAA potential but to us maybe at 3" or bigger. that is why most of the AAAs were reserved for the highest price customers for their profits & survival for overheads & maintenance.... its all good



Au Duong Phong	Jun 12 2008, 10:21 AM Post #46
15" 3x Champions Posts: 3,426 Group: FHRUS Founders Member #70 Joined: July 30, 2006	I do agrre with the grading ways. I like my FHs with full flowerlines and colors and all that good pretty stuff. But Im not a robo and I grade or judge my fish by my taste and preference. Do Mal or you experts have a "by the book" way of judging women too? LOL
	The flowerhorn fishes are cool and beautiful, but the flowerhorn hobby is crap!


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