how do u identify a zhen Zhu

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how do u identify a zhen Zhu; not to sound dumb but IDK!
Topic Started: Jul 3 2008, 10:29 AM (262 Views)
nikitanain	Jul 3 2008, 10:29 AM Post #1
3" Frys Posts: 347 Group: Members Member #10,977 Joined: May 6, 2008 Favorite Strain ALL of The ABOVE!	hard kok? long finnage? red eyes..are these the only 3 ways to identify a zhen zhu? is GM = Golden monkey.... what is a kamalau and how do u distinguish between a zhen zhu and a kamalau? thanks :)



petah	Jul 3 2008, 12:23 PM Post #2
15" 3x Champions Posts: 4,438 Group: Global Moderators/ Team RUS Member #99 Joined: September 12, 2006	check this thread out.. http://flowerhornrusforum.com/topic/104893/1/#new and here is something for kml http://flowerhornrusforum.com/topic/8004741/1/#new Edited by petah, Jul 3 2008, 12:28 PM.
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Mentat	Jul 3 2008, 07:26 PM Post #3
Peacemaker Posts: 1,453 Group: Global Advisors Member #11 Joined: June 4, 2006	Picture on this link will help visualize ZZ traits: http://www.flowerhornrus.com/faqandinfos.htm. The Fish Talk section needs updating; latest version is flagged at forum's Beginners section.
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nikitanain	Jul 3 2008, 10:02 PM Post #4
3" Frys Posts: 347 Group: Members Member #10,977 Joined: May 6, 2008 Favorite Strain ALL of The ABOVE!	thank u for the links :) i have seen some z z with water KOKS but the site says soft KOKS? and does the black marking (flowers) mean that its a Z Z? making of a KAMA LAU was a bouncer, as i am still learning the basics..... :lol:



Mentat	Jul 4 2008, 02:41 PM Post #5
Peacemaker Posts: 1,453 Group: Global Advisors Member #11 Joined: June 4, 2006	nikitanain Jul 3 2008, 10:02 PM i have seen some z z with water KOKS but the site says soft KOKS? and does the black marking (flowers) mean that its a Z Z? 1. Water kok = Soft kok. 2. Flowers (black markings) exist in other FH strain ( i.e. Kamfa). Conversely, there are flowerless ZZs.
	In dwelling, live close to the ground. In thinking, keep it simple. In conflict, be fair and generous. In governing, don't control. In work, do what you enjoy. In family life, be completely present. - Tao Te Ching


Flowerhornrus	Jul 4 2008, 04:59 PM Post #6
Administrator Posts: 5,257 Group: Admins Member #1 Joined: June 2, 2006 Favorite Strain Kamfas Residence LoNg BeAcH, Ca. (USA)	nikitanain Jul 3 2008, 10:29 AM hard kok? long finnage? red eyes..are these the only 3 ways to identify a zhen zhu? is GM = Golden monkey.... what is a kamalau and how do u distinguish between a zhen zhu and a kamalau? thanks :) these are some awesome questions.. keep them coming.. also.. thanks Mentat and petah for pointing out.. i will try to give some input when time is given.. Golden Monkey ALSO called KAMALAU Kamalau is a Cantonese term which is the same as GM. In Malaysia, Singapore & Indonesia, this term is commonly use among hobbyists but to me the best way to learn is to be open minded, take in information, do some research,.. ASK!! and in time you will know whats what.. do not worry..for all of us are newbies as is..for with FH, it is ever so changing!! i moved the thread to the newbie corners so we all could learn respectfully, vanz
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nikitanain	Jul 5 2008, 06:44 AM Post #7
3" Frys Posts: 347 Group: Members Member #10,977 Joined: May 6, 2008 Favorite Strain ALL of The ABOVE!	thank u :) i need to learn, and i am very happy that u guys are so helpful.... i understand that Soft Kok = water KOk, however, i have seen ZZs with soft KOK, and many Links on the net say thta ZZ have hard koks? Edited by nikitanain, Jul 5 2008, 06:45 AM.



Mentat	Jul 5 2008, 11:32 AM Post #8
Peacemaker Posts: 1,453 Group: Global Advisors Member #11 Joined: June 4, 2006	nikitanain Jul 5 2008, 06:44 AM i understand that Soft Kok = water KOk, however, i have seen ZZs with soft KOK, and many Links on the net say thta ZZ have hard koks? That statement was maybe true during FH origen time, but not anymore. Currently there are ZZs with hard koks, soft koks (more desired) and semi-hard (somewhere in between hard and soft) .
	In dwelling, live close to the ground. In thinking, keep it simple. In conflict, be fair and generous. In governing, don't control. In work, do what you enjoy. In family life, be completely present. - Tao Te Ching


nikitanain	Jul 5 2008, 11:44 AM Post #9
3" Frys Posts: 347 Group: Members Member #10,977 Joined: May 6, 2008 Favorite Strain ALL of The ABOVE!	ok.. i dint know that thanks for the information



nikitanain	Jul 15 2008, 06:19 AM Post #10
3" Frys Posts: 347 Group: Members Member #10,977 Joined: May 6, 2008 Favorite Strain ALL of The ABOVE!	a red dragon is a ZZ ? so how do u differentiate a red dragon? more of red colour? less pearls? any other way ? Edited by nikitanain, Jul 15 2008, 06:20 AM.



Bigg Dogg	Jul 15 2008, 05:25 PM Post #11
FLOWERHORN'R'US Posts: 2,723 Group: Global Moderators/ Team RUS Member #22 Joined: June 7, 2006 Favorite Strain ALL of The ABOVE! Residence Long Beach, CA	Identification of ZZ Hard Head Semi- Water Head Water Head Short Body ZZ Characteristics Note: Flower Lo-Han = Kamfa & Pearl Lo-Han = ZZ FOREHEAD/KOK: The forehead/kok of the Kamfa rises higher than the ZZ. FLOWER: On the side of the forehead/kok, the ZZ has more conspicuous/easily seen black mark/flowers than the Kamfa. MOUTH/LIPS: The lips of the Kamfa is smooth and circular whereas the lower lips of the ZZ is sticking/protruding out and the upper lips is shorter. EYES: The eyes of the ZZ are usually outstanding/bulge out. The eyes of the Kamfa are hollow/sunken. FINNAGE: The dorsal fin and anal fin of the Kamfa would wrap around the caudal fin and they would look like one whole fin. The dorsal fin and anal fin of a ZZ would usually go upward and downward. The caudal fin of the ZZ is usually smaller also. TAIL: The bigger & older ZZ, it would have a droopy caudal tail. This condition would not occur to the Kamfa strain. Edited by Bigg Dogg, Jul 15 2008, 05:54 PM.
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Bigg Dogg	Jul 16 2008, 06:54 AM Post #12
FLOWERHORN'R'US Posts: 2,723 Group: Global Moderators/ Team RUS Member #22 Joined: June 7, 2006 Favorite Strain ALL of The ABOVE! Residence Long Beach, CA	Blue Dragon ZZ Red Dragon ZZ
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nikitanain	Jul 16 2008, 07:04 AM Post #13
3" Frys Posts: 347 Group: Members Member #10,977 Joined: May 6, 2008 Favorite Strain ALL of The ABOVE!	hey thanks a lot..that was very informative



Bigg Dogg	Jul 16 2008, 07:27 AM Post #14
FLOWERHORN'R'US Posts: 2,723 Group: Global Moderators/ Team RUS Member #22 Joined: June 7, 2006 Favorite Strain ALL of The ABOVE! Residence Long Beach, CA	You're very welcome..glad to help.
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nikitanain	Jul 16 2008, 09:15 AM Post #15
3" Frys Posts: 347 Group: Members Member #10,977 Joined: May 6, 2008 Favorite Strain ALL of The ABOVE!	very well explained!



lil_jess	Aug 6 2008, 10:44 PM Post #16
Zygotes Posts: 48 Group: Members Member #11,943 Joined: August 6, 2008 Favorite Strain GM/KGM/Malau Residence YAJKML	wow, I just found out that mine is a ZZ...lol...thanks for the info...and thanks to nikitanain for putting up the topic...
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