Traits of ZZ

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Traits of ZZ
Topic Started: Jul 15 2008, 06:20 PM (251 Views)
Bigg Dogg	Jul 15 2008, 06:20 PM Post #1
FLOWERHORN'R'US Posts: 2,697 Group: Global Moderators/ Team RUS Member #22 Joined: June 7, 2006 Favorite Strain ALL of The ABOVE!!!!!	ZZ Identifications.. Semi- Water Head Water Head Short Body ZZ Blue Dragon ZZ Red Dragon ZZ Characteristics Note: Flower Lo-Han = Kamfa & Pearl Lo-Han = ZZ FOREHEAD/KOK: The forehead/kok of the Kamfa rises higher than the ZZ. FLOWER: On the side of the forehead/kok, the ZZ has more conspicuous/easily seen black mark/flowers than the Kamfa. MOUTH/LIPS: The lips of the Kamfa is smooth and circular whereas the lower lips of the ZZ is sticking/protruding out and the upper lips is shorter. EYES: The eyes of the ZZ are usually outstanding/bulge out. The eyes of the Kamfa are hollow/sunken. FINNAGE: The dorsal fin and anal fin of the Kamfa would wrap around the caudal fin and they would look like one whole fin. The dorsal fin and anal fin of a ZZ would usually go upward and downward. The caudal fin of the ZZ is usually smaller also. TAIL: The bigger & older ZZ, it would have a droopy caudal tail. This condition would not occur to the Kamfa strain. Edited by Bigg Dogg, Jul 16 2008, 08:02 AM.
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Jett	Jul 15 2008, 06:58 PM Post #2
1" Frys Posts: 194 Group: Global Advisors Member #8,864 Joined: March 18, 2008	There are other differences that one would notice.. 1) The way a ZZ swims is different 2) Movement of tail 3) The way it chews its food 4) The way it opens its mouth 5) It's tolerance towards h2o changes. Hope this helps



petah	Jul 15 2008, 10:19 PM Post #3
15" 3x Champions Posts: 4,287 Group: Global Moderators/ Team RUS Member #99 Joined: September 12, 2006	Jett Jul 15 2008, 06:58 PM There are other differences that one would notice.. 1) The way a ZZ swims is different 2) Movement of tail 3) The way it chews its food 4) The way it opens its mouth 5) It's tolerance towards h2o changes. Hope this helps first off thanks kevin for posting this up... and jett this is some really interesting information can you give us more details please..
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Bigg Dogg	Jul 16 2008, 06:30 AM Post #4
FLOWERHORN'R'US Posts: 2,697 Group: Global Moderators/ Team RUS Member #22 Joined: June 7, 2006 Favorite Strain ALL of The ABOVE!!!!!	petah Jul 15 2008, 10:19 PM Jett Jul 15 2008, 06:58 PM There are other differences that one would notice.. 1) The way a ZZ swims is different 2) Movement of tail 3) The way it chews its food 4) The way it opens its mouth 5) It's tolerance towards h2o changes. Hope this helps first off thanks kevin for posting this up... and jett this is some really interesting information can you give us more details please.. Hope we can all learn from this..Bro. Jett for the support.
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Bigg Dogg	Jul 16 2008, 08:05 AM Post #5
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Jett	Jul 24 2008, 10:56 PM Post #6
1" Frys Posts: 194 Group: Global Advisors Member #8,864 Joined: March 18, 2008	Jett Jul 15 2008, 06:58 PM There are other differences that one would notice.. 1) The way a ZZ swims is different 2) Movement of tail 3) The way it chews its food 4) The way it opens its mouth 5) It's tolerance towards h2o changes. Hope this helps Sorry I just saw this hehehe. 1) A zz swims differently from a KF in such a way that the ZZ will normaly swim like a chopper, first slightly dipping its head then move forward. ZZ's are aldso always for the look out for food hehehe 2) A KF's tail would move from side to side like a fan. ZZ's tail would move in a semi screw like fashion. 3) A ZZ would chew its food with its mouth open. A KF would chew its food with its mouth closed 4) ZZ's are like dogs that continuesly opens its mouth and pants. KF's would close their mouth when they swim. 5) ZZ's loooooove water change. KF's are sensitive to this. I am sorry if it start the post does not make sense but I guess one learns this differences after years and years and years of looking at these things. Has anyone here tried judging an FH competition? hehehe. trust me you will see these differences if you had. Hope it makes sense.



Sonny	Jul 24 2008, 11:39 PM Post #7
Great "O" Master Posts: 1,569 Group: Global Advisors Member #23 Joined: June 7, 2006	thanks for your input bro Jett. well, i think to differ to your input.... 1. a ZZ swims different is because of its weak and longer tail that bend round at the end. and with a weight of its head & body, of course it needed a dip down to pick up or propel itself forward each time. 2. with reference to item 1, a KF tail is stronger thus it doesn't have any problem with that swimming action like a ZZ semi screw action. 3. a ZZ chew with its mouth open is because of its protruding lower jaw (PLJ) genetics origin which differs to KF. 4. some KFs do open its mouth & pants. you may notice this action when the KF chases its prey & got tired. 5. loving of water changes & sensitive is 2 different issue. of course all fishes love new & fresh water than contaminated old water. the problem is the correct parameters which matters to a KF whereas ZZ is more adaptable. lastly, let us not forget that not all KF are like those AAAs..eg. strong body, finnages & tail etc. and also 90% of the time we judge or buy a FH by posting of pictures and not with the described swimming action, chewing of food, panting action & water changes.



Flowerhornrus	Jul 25 2008, 10:12 PM Post #8
Administrator Posts: 5,008 Group: Admins Member #1 Joined: June 2, 2006 Favorite Strain Kamfas Residence LoNg BeAcH, Ca. (USA)	darn good to have threads like this to refresh and learn new things.. i will keep in mind and be more focus on these traits and characteristics when i eye on these fish..heheh threads like this makes me think more and more.. wonder if there are any more things to know and learn bout zz?? do zz grow faster than any other strains.. are they more valuable.. are they easier to use for breeding??? is it true that they die faster... and are they really easier to care for than any other strains
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