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Drinkable water is no good...; Safe or not?
Topic Started: Jul 25 2008, 09:31 AM (131 Views)
wildimage	Jul 25 2008, 09:31 AM Post #1
* Bionic Biker Chickyta* Posts: 3,929 Group: Global Moderators/ Team RUS Member #455 Joined: January 31, 2007 Favorite Strain ALL of The ABOVE!!!!!	The fireman's have just past on my street saying "the drinkable water is no good, please do not consume" I wonder if it affects our fish too? In my head yes, but since we had conditioner & salt, do you think its safe? Im not due for my FH WC until Tuesday, but was going to do 4 tanks today of my other fishes... Should i wait to do the WC on my male HM Betta, female HM Betta, community tank, and my Tiger Barbs? I do have aged water, but its for the community tank ( water temp is colder ) Another question, how long can you keep aged water in big garbage pale??? I remember in the past someone told me bacteria grows fast in water, is aged water still good to use after 3 days???
	-Lynda ;) "Provehito in Altum" = "Launch forth into the deep" *TEAM R US* *UNITED WE STAND STRONG & TOGETHER ANYTHING IS POSSIBE*


Mystique	Jul 25 2008, 11:16 AM Post #2
3" Frys Posts: 313 Group: Members Member #11,906 Joined: July 6, 2008	normally ill adopt age water of not more than 24 hrs. This is due to a drop in ph for age water more than 24 hrs. but age water does not remove much impurities. One method to assure your long term reliable source of water is trying out commercial catridge water filter installed onto taps for drinking purpose. This can be used for water change which many indo are using. You may wish to check out diamond filter system. http://www.diamondmasterfilter.com/enquiry.htm



petah	Jul 25 2008, 03:09 PM Post #3
15" 3x Champions Posts: 4,287 Group: Global Moderators/ Team RUS Member #99 Joined: September 12, 2006	thats just drinkable water.. do you do water change with drinkable water cuz that would be a waste.. well Im sure if its not safe for you it wouldnt be safe for the fish.. probably got some chemicals in it or something.. you should find out more about this and stay safe Lynda..
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wildimage	Jul 26 2008, 05:08 AM Post #4
* Bionic Biker Chickyta* Posts: 3,929 Group: Global Moderators/ Team RUS Member #455 Joined: January 31, 2007 Favorite Strain ALL of The ABOVE!!!!!	Thanks Mystique & Peter...i do use tap water ( drinkable ) for my Bettas, Tiger barbs...and my FH Skull, for they need water warmer...I always add water conditioner to remove chlorine etc... The only tank i use old water is for my community tank, for they like colder water... My FH is in my kitchen, close to the sink, so i did get an attachement so i dont have to use buckets after bukets to empty & refill... Guess i will wait and see if water is ok in a couple of days before i do any WC.
	-Lynda ;) "Provehito in Altum" = "Launch forth into the deep" *TEAM R US* *UNITED WE STAND STRONG & TOGETHER ANYTHING IS POSSIBE*


wildimage	Jul 26 2008, 05:30 AM Post #5
* Bionic Biker Chickyta* Posts: 3,929 Group: Global Moderators/ Team RUS Member #455 Joined: January 31, 2007 Favorite Strain ALL of The ABOVE!!!!!	Is water aged no more good after 3 days???
	-Lynda ;) "Provehito in Altum" = "Launch forth into the deep" *TEAM R US* *UNITED WE STAND STRONG & TOGETHER ANYTHING IS POSSIBE*


Mentat	Jul 26 2008, 05:54 AM Post #6
Peacemaker Posts: 1,453 Group: Global Advisors Member #11 Joined: June 4, 2006	wildimage Jul 26 2008, 05:30 AM Is water aged no more good after 3 days??? As long as container material is not reacting with it and water parameters (temperature, pH, etc.) are close to tanks water (can adjust if needed before putting in) you should be fine. Warning about your water not safe for drinking refers to what? Could be treatment chemical overdose or underdose, or maybe they detected bacteria in it? Maybe bad water flushed by use (toilet and showers) and is good now. Call and check with water company to find out.
	In dwelling, live close to the ground. In thinking, keep it simple. In conflict, be fair and generous. In governing, don't control. In work, do what you enjoy. In family life, be completely present. - Tao Te Ching


Mystique	Jul 26 2008, 10:03 AM Post #7
3" Frys Posts: 313 Group: Members Member #11,906 Joined: July 6, 2008	wildimage Jul 26 2008, 05:30 AM Is water aged no more good after 3 days??? hi sis, it all depands. every individual has different appoach. Some like to age it for 1 week some do not. But I never like it more than 2 days. Y is it I do not like it. But i must try to express my concern of y i do not like age water to be too long say more than even 2 days. My concept of aged water is primarily to rid off high content of chlorine and chlormate from the water. Other impurities will not have much difference even aging for 1 week, maybe some slight change but its neligible. But i found a significant drop in ph level after 1 day. hence, I concerate more on keeping the ph rather than loosing this important factor. Lets say once I use age water of 1 day, how do i control other water impurities? I use other manual commercial products such as biohome and sera bio rings to make it work naurtally with the water over time. I try not to use any instant commercial products such as in powder form as I feel keeping fishes should be less hassle and let the water work natrally over manual products. I classify commercial products in two forms, mainly manual commercial products and instant commercial products. Its just my way of simple understanding. Its hard to explain many indepth water parameter methods over filteration methods. The above is my general and simple understanding. Just to share my method, you may wish to test and try and i'm not trying to say the above rule is to be followed. Am not sure anyone agrees my method. But ive mastered my own method to keep the water parameters consistantly. just a thought of sharing to pass on.



Mentat	Jul 26 2008, 10:29 AM Post #8
Peacemaker Posts: 1,453 Group: Global Advisors Member #11 Joined: June 4, 2006	Mystique Jul 26 2008, 10:03 AM But i must try to express my concern of y i do not like age water to be too long say more than even 2 days. My concept of aged water is primarily to rid off high content of chlorine and chlormate from the water. Other impurities will not have much difference even aging for 1 week, maybe some slight change but its neligible. But i found a significant drop in ph level after 1 day. hence, I concerate more on keeping the ph rather than loosing this important factor. Agree with your observations in regard to pH and action taken. It is difficult without knowing some information on the water quality (ph, hardness, how treated by water company, etc.) how to treat tapwater and if storage will have effect on it. Even when you have figure out the best way to handle your local water... the company might make a mistake or change procedures throwing you off. That is reason why allways recommend small water changes (10-15%) and large ones should be done only in emergencies or when dealing with disease. Currently (local tap water quality for fish is bad) I use faucet to mix it to right temp; add salt (2 tbs. per 5 gal of replaced water) and triple dose with a conditioner that removes chlorine, ammonia, nitrites, and nitrates. My water is not aged, goes to bucket for adjustments and right into tanks. Once in tank there is large amounts of Matrix or Biohome housing bacteria in the filters and aragonite in gravel to buffer pH to desired level. Many years ago I lived in Puerto Rico (tropical weather) and only thing I used to do was exactly what you are doing now, age water for 24 hours to let chlorine gas out and use it as is, never added conditioner .
	In dwelling, live close to the ground. In thinking, keep it simple. In conflict, be fair and generous. In governing, don't control. In work, do what you enjoy. In family life, be completely present. - Tao Te Ching


wildimage	Jul 27 2008, 05:05 AM Post #9
* Bionic Biker Chickyta* Posts: 3,929 Group: Global Moderators/ Team RUS Member #455 Joined: January 31, 2007 Favorite Strain ALL of The ABOVE!!!!!	Guys...i will empty the big pale for its longer than 3 days water in it. Tomorrow is Monday, i will call the city to find out what is what...and when will it be ok. My FH WC is due Tuesday...depending what the city tells me...if bacteria or not... I couldnt hear properly when they passed around in the streets "either boil for 5 minutes, or let water run 5 minutes. Its closed today, so tomorrow i will find out more info, and will let you guys know what is what and then you guys will tell me what to do...if its a bacteria...i doubt it would die in 24hrs or 48hrs in my big garbage bin with doube garbage bags... Will let you know tomorrow what they say...i guess i could boil some water for my 15g, 5g, 10g, my bettas and Tiger barbs...after work today and then put a heater to make right temp for them...but does Boiling water gets rid of to much ph etc??? Or should i go pick up a fiew 5g for all your help :)
	-Lynda ;) "Provehito in Altum" = "Launch forth into the deep" *TEAM R US* *UNITED WE STAND STRONG & TOGETHER ANYTHING IS POSSIBE*


Mentat	Jul 27 2008, 05:19 AM Post #10
Peacemaker Posts: 1,453 Group: Global Advisors Member #11 Joined: June 4, 2006	wildimage Jul 27 2008, 05:05 AM Will let you know tomorrow what they say...i guess i could boil some water for my 15g, 5g, 10g, my bettas and Tiger barbs...after work today and then put a heater to make right temp for them...but does Boiling water gets rid of to much ph etc??? Boiling water for aquariums might create more problems than it solves (reaction with container; low oxygen; pH changes; etc.). If you are not sure what they said... don't worry about it and use it; or wait a couple days until you find out. Edited by Mentat, Jul 27 2008, 05:26 AM.
	In dwelling, live close to the ground. In thinking, keep it simple. In conflict, be fair and generous. In governing, don't control. In work, do what you enjoy. In family life, be completely present. - Tao Te Ching


Mystique	Jul 27 2008, 08:17 AM Post #11
3" Frys Posts: 313 Group: Members Member #11,906 Joined: July 6, 2008	oh no, dont use boiled water for fishes. There is No oxygen. It might make matters worst. If water is aged more than 1 day, do use air bubbles. If its stagnant water for too long, I'm afraid you'll be breeding mosqitoes. :)



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