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Tiny black dot
Topic Started: Sep 2 2008, 09:19 PM (228 Views)
kcsimcity1	Sep 2 2008, 09:19 PM Post #1
1" Frys Posts: 160 Group: Members Member #7,578 Joined: January 31, 2008	Hello, My FH has some black or yellowish tiny dot on his body. Most of the dot are very small but some are quite bigger. Anyone here can tell me what is that? The small dot grow more and more. It has been 2 months on his body. At the very begining just few dot now be more and more. And some dot feel like grow bigger. But i am not so sure. My aquarium always in clean condition, i change 50% water every 7 days. I not able to take picture to show here, because the black dot are too small. How to cure? What is that? Any opinion? Please help. Thank you, SIM



petah	Sep 3 2008, 12:13 AM Post #2
15" 3x Champions Posts: 4,287 Group: Global Moderators/ Team RUS Member #99 Joined: September 12, 2006	can you get a picture of it..
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nikitanain	Sep 3 2008, 03:28 AM Post #3
3" Frys Posts: 338 Group: Members Member #10,977 Joined: May 6, 2008 Favorite Strain ALL of The ABOVE!!!!!	without a picture, a diagnosis is not possible.. try zooming in the spots....



kcsimcity1	Sep 3 2008, 09:36 AM Post #4
1" Frys Posts: 160 Group: Members Member #7,578 Joined: January 31, 2008	I will try to get photo thanks guy



Lucky	Sep 3 2008, 10:52 AM Post #5
15" 3x Champions Posts: 4,082 Group: Global Advisors Member #708 Joined: March 5, 2007	Most likely Lymphocystis... very common viral disease in FHs that you have to let run through its life cycle. http://www.aquarticles.com/articles/management/Lawler_Lymphocystis.html The pic in the link above of the heavily infected bass is an extreme case. FHs usually get a "pimple" or two... and then they go away. Some FHs can get many... some take longer to pass then others. It is only life threatening in the worst of cases.



kcsimcity1	Sep 4 2008, 09:26 PM Post #6
1" Frys Posts: 160 Group: Members Member #7,578 Joined: January 31, 2008	this is the best picture i can get. There are about 20 to 30 tiny dot all over the body. Thanks, SIM



Lucky	Sep 4 2008, 09:52 PM Post #7
15" 3x Champions Posts: 4,082 Group: Global Advisors Member #708 Joined: March 5, 2007	kcsimcity1 Sep 4 2008, 09:26 PM Ahhhh... what a pic can do! I haven't seen those "bugs" yet on a FH. Interesting... seen those more in reef fish & pond bred African cichlids. Dang good eyes to spot those! They are skin flukes... or Monogeneans (flukes). I would get a good ectoparasite med. If they are really tough to get rid of use Fluke Tabs, though I think it is best in this case to use something less strong like copper sulfate. That should be able to eliminate this bug. It is easier to treat ectoparasite infections. Here is a link for you for more info: http://edis.ifas.ufl.edu/FA033



kcsimcity1	Sep 5 2008, 01:41 AM Post #8
1" Frys Posts: 160 Group: Members Member #7,578 Joined: January 31, 2008	Lucky Sep 4 2008, 09:52 PM kcsimcity1 Sep 4 2008, 09:26 PM Ahhhh... what a pic can do! I haven't seen those "bugs" yet on a FH. Interesting... seen those more in reef fish & pond bred African cichlids. Dang good eyes to spot those! They are skin flukes... or Monogeneans (flukes). I would get a good ectoparasite med. If they are really tough to get rid of use Fluke Tabs, though I think it is best in this case to use something less strong like copper sulfate. That should be able to eliminate this bug. It is easier to treat ectoparasite infections. Here is a link for you for more info: http://edis.ifas.ufl.edu/FA033 Hello, Thanks for quick reply, i will try to use ectoparasite med. SIM



kcsimcity1	Sep 5 2008, 09:30 AM Post #9
1" Frys Posts: 160 Group: Members Member #7,578 Joined: January 31, 2008	Hello, I already add copper sulfate, i put half dose of the instruction. May increase dosage after 24hour. Thanks you, SIM



Mentat	Sep 5 2008, 06:45 PM Post #10
Peacemaker Posts: 1,453 Group: Global Advisors Member #11 Joined: June 4, 2006	Lucky Sep 4 2008, 09:52 PM .... They are skin flukes... or Monogeneans (flukes). Agree with Bro Lucky, them bad boys are flukes. Yep, if copper sulfate does not kill them, give them the Flukes Tab treatment (meds sometimes causes loss of fish color but that is temporary).
	In dwelling, live close to the ground. In thinking, keep it simple. In conflict, be fair and generous. In governing, don't control. In work, do what you enjoy. In family life, be completely present. - Tao Te Ching


kcsimcity1	Sep 6 2008, 12:59 AM Post #11
1" Frys Posts: 160 Group: Members Member #7,578 Joined: January 31, 2008	Hello, From your experiences, how long do i need to get raid of those "bugs"? I use copper sulfate. Thank you, SIM



Lucky	Sep 6 2008, 11:24 AM Post #12
15" 3x Champions Posts: 4,082 Group: Global Advisors Member #708 Joined: March 5, 2007	kcsimcity1 Sep 6 2008, 12:59 AM Hello, From your experiences, how long do i need to get raid of those "bugs"? I use copper sulfate. Thank you, SIM I would do a couple of treatments at full dosage. Then I would check again to see if the bugs come back. If the bugs are still there after 2 treatments then i would switch to Fluke Tabs after a waterchange. *Copper Sulfate will make your fish flicker the gills... (looks like fish is coughing). That is a normal reaction & rapidly the fish will go back to its normal self.



kcsimcity1	Sep 8 2008, 01:33 AM Post #13
1" Frys Posts: 160 Group: Members Member #7,578 Joined: January 31, 2008	Hello, Today is the 3rd day of treatment. But seen no improvement.



kcsimcity1	Sep 9 2008, 05:22 AM Post #14
1" Frys Posts: 160 Group: Members Member #7,578 Joined: January 31, 2008	still no improvement. I add more salt and add some more of copper sulfate



kcsimcity1	Sep 10 2008, 11:08 PM Post #15
1" Frys Posts: 160 Group: Members Member #7,578 Joined: January 31, 2008	still no improment.



kcsimcity1	Sep 13 2008, 03:22 AM Post #16
1" Frys Posts: 160 Group: Members Member #7,578 Joined: January 31, 2008	Hello, Untill today still no improvement with copper sulfate? Anymore suggestion? PLS Thank you, SIM



Lucky	Sep 13 2008, 10:23 AM Post #17
15" 3x Champions Posts: 4,082 Group: Global Advisors Member #708 Joined: March 5, 2007	kcsimcity1 Sep 13 2008, 03:22 AM Hello, Untill today still no improvement with copper sulfate? Anymore suggestion? PLS Thank you, SIM Fluke Tabs or Clout... remember to use full dosage recommended for meds. or it won't work. GL bro!



kcsimcity1	Sep 13 2008, 11:56 AM Post #18
1" Frys Posts: 160 Group: Members Member #7,578 Joined: January 31, 2008	Hello, May i know should i remove my battle bacterial(bio ring) during copper sulfate treatment? however i did remove carbon. Thank you SIM



kcsimcity1	Sep 20 2008, 01:29 AM Post #19
1" Frys Posts: 160 Group: Members Member #7,578 Joined: January 31, 2008	Hello members, Where should i buy Fluke Tabs? If i want to get it online, which website is recommended? I m outside of US and Canada. In addition, how many do i need it for treatment? Thank you for advise, SIM



Lucky	Sep 20 2008, 09:31 AM Post #20
15" 3x Champions Posts: 4,082 Group: Global Advisors Member #708 Joined: March 5, 2007	kcsimcity1 Sep 20 2008, 01:29 AM Hello members, Where should i buy Fluke Tabs? If i want to get it online, which website is recommended? I m outside of US and Canada. In addition, how many do i need it for treatment? Thank you for advise, SIM I don't know where to get them outside of USA. Here is a pic of the bottle & a link to where lost of folks get them in USA: http://www.drsfostersmith.com/Product/Prod_Display.cfm?pcatid=4760 Attached to this post: p_210308_FS17425D.jpg (23.01 KB) Edited by Lucky, Sep 20 2008, 09:31 AM.



Lucky	Sep 20 2008, 09:35 AM Post #21
15" 3x Champions Posts: 4,082 Group: Global Advisors Member #708 Joined: March 5, 2007	One more way to get rid of them is to give your FH a medicated bath or dip. I don't have my charts with me now. When I get beck downtown I will look up what baths or dips would be good for your FH.



kcsimcity1	Sep 20 2008, 11:55 PM Post #22
1" Frys Posts: 160 Group: Members Member #7,578 Joined: January 31, 2008	for help and advise.



Mystique	Sep 21 2008, 10:56 AM Post #23
3" Frys Posts: 313 Group: Members Member #11,906 Joined: July 6, 2008	Just my side of observation. Before medication remove all carbon in filter box/trays & ceramic rings. Raise temp to 30C. Follow medication procedures of dossage for 3 days. After 3 days if no improvements, repeat same process for 1-2 weeks.



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