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What is this?; Is it ich?
Topic Started: Jun 28 2009, 03:46 PM (256 Views)
ProvidersInc	Jun 28 2009, 03:46 PM Post #1
1" Frys Posts: 131 Group: Members Member #12,399 Joined: May 19, 2009 Favorite Strain Texas Residence Seattle	Hey we were wondering if these white dots could possibly be ich. Edited by ProvidersInc, Jun 28 2009, 06:25 PM.
	-Kane


scotty61	Jun 28 2009, 04:01 PM Post #2
15" 3x Champions Posts: 1,698 Group: Global Moderators/ Team RUS Member #11,879 Joined: June 20, 2008 Favorite Strain NONE of The ABOVE	maybe. some what hard to tell i didnt see any on the fins. but that really dont mean any thing. i would increase the water temp and treat for it. i would see what others think
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ProvidersInc	Jun 28 2009, 04:18 PM Post #3
1" Frys Posts: 131 Group: Members Member #12,399 Joined: May 19, 2009 Favorite Strain Texas Residence Seattle	Take a look at his face at the beginning of the video and look very hard at the whole body and you will see A LOT of white specs... :( let me know people. should i start treating for ich?
	-Kane


Bud	Jun 28 2009, 05:26 PM Post #4
* BOWHUNTER FOR LIFE * Posts: 963 Group: Members Member #12,263 Joined: February 1, 2009 Favorite Strain GM/KGM/Malau Residence KCMO	yes
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Josh	Jun 28 2009, 08:51 PM Post #5
4" Juvies Posts: 458 Group: Members Member #12,435 Joined: June 4, 2009 Favorite Strain GM/KGM/Malau Residence Washington State	we are on it already. Dang this is making me mad; complication after complication. Fish tank leak then ich on it and the midas and maybe others and we figured out it came from some home made food that we got from some flowerhorn recipe. BUT on the positive side of thing we have a new home for our KGM. We got it up and running today so when he is cured of ich and the tank is cycled; he will most definately love his new home all to his self



Tina	Jun 28 2009, 08:52 PM Post #6
"Miss Independent" Posts: 656 Group: Members Member #12,105 Joined: October 10, 2008 Favorite Strain Kamfas Residence Toronto ON Canada	Looks like Ich to me... i would treat it right away...i use quick cure but it stains the silicone in my tank and is really blue... if you can get your hand on something else or if someone can recommend a better med then i would start treatment right away before it spreads... good luck! he's a nice fish too.



Tina	Jun 28 2009, 08:54 PM Post #7
"Miss Independent" Posts: 656 Group: Members Member #12,105 Joined: October 10, 2008 Favorite Strain Kamfas Residence Toronto ON Canada	Josh Jun 28 2009, 08:51 PM we are on it already. Dang this is making me mad; complication after complication. Fish tank leak then ich on it and the midas and maybe others and we figured out it came from some home made food that we got from some flowerhorn recipe. BUT on the positive side of thing we have a new home for our KGM. We got it up and running today so when he is cured of ich and the tank is cycled; he will most definately love his new home all to his self on that note.. great job!.. hope he gets better soon and has a great life in his new home :)



Josh	Jun 28 2009, 08:55 PM Post #8
4" Juvies Posts: 458 Group: Members Member #12,435 Joined: June 4, 2009 Favorite Strain GM/KGM/Malau Residence Washington State	yeah we use quick cure bc it works and im not too worried about the staining bc its only a 10 gal tank. We started treatment about 5 hours ago. Hopefully we can finally get everything going for us after this. Thank you. He is beautiful but u cant tell bc our camera is not the best



henri	Jun 28 2009, 10:32 PM Post #9
15" 3x Champions Posts: 2,772 Group: FHRUS CEO's Member #409 Joined: January 26, 2007	Make sure to add some salt, and pump the temp to high like 86 - 88 degree. Ich should be gone in a few day. Good luck bro.
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Nikita	Jun 29 2009, 08:12 AM Post #10
Addicted to flowerhorns Posts: 2,300 Group: Global Moderators/ Team RUS Member #10,977 Joined: May 6, 2008 Favorite Strain NONE of The ABOVE	As far as I know Food cannot cause ich, it is an infection.... Bacteria and other organisms live in all tanks and when the immune system of the fish gets suppressed, the fish becomes susceptible to problems....



Lucky	Jun 29 2009, 02:14 PM Post #11
15" 3x Champions Posts: 6,606 Group: Global Advisors Member #708 Joined: March 5, 2007	nikitanain Jun 29 2009, 08:12 AM As far as I know Food cannot cause ich, it is an infection.... Bacteria and other organisms live in all tanks and when the immune system of the fish gets suppressed, the fish becomes susceptible to problems.... Yes 100% correct!



ProvidersInc	Jun 29 2009, 05:59 PM Post #12
1" Frys Posts: 131 Group: Members Member #12,399 Joined: May 19, 2009 Favorite Strain Texas Residence Seattle	Lucky Jun 29 2009, 02:14 PM nikitanain Jun 29 2009, 08:12 AM As far as I know Food cannot cause ich, it is an infection.... Bacteria and other organisms live in all tanks and when the immune system of the fish gets suppressed, the fish becomes susceptible to problems.... Yes 100% correct! We are pretty sure it is from the raw meat mixture we created. Every tank that we fed with the mixture Ich apears. Edited by ProvidersInc, Jun 29 2009, 06:01 PM.
	-Kane


Nikita	Jun 29 2009, 06:35 PM Post #13
Addicted to flowerhorns Posts: 2,300 Group: Global Moderators/ Team RUS Member #10,977 Joined: May 6, 2008 Favorite Strain NONE of The ABOVE	Ich is caused by a pathogen that affects the external surface of the body. Meat can cause internal problems such as tummy upset by consuming meat cannot cause an external problem... As far as I know fish are not allergic to meat and hence an allergic reaction to the meat is not possible.. You should examine your water parameters since water can cause such problems.. maybe your tap water's ph or some other parameter was not right and it caused stress to your FH during a water change hence they became susceptible to ich. We may feel a lot of things but our feelings are not facts... Sorry to sound harsh but science says that ich is caused by environmental factors and not by eating meat....



Lucky	Jun 29 2009, 07:56 PM Post #14
15" 3x Champions Posts: 6,606 Group: Global Advisors Member #708 Joined: March 5, 2007	ProvidersInc Jun 29 2009, 05:59 PM Lucky Jun 29 2009, 02:14 PM nikitanain Jun 29 2009, 08:12 AM As far as I know Food cannot cause ich, it is an infection.... Bacteria and other organisms live in all tanks and when the immune system of the fish gets suppressed, the fish becomes susceptible to problems.... Yes 100% correct! We are pretty sure it is from the raw meat mixture we created. Every tank that we fed with the mixture Ich apears. Fish ick is caused by stress and the fish�s immune system. Definitely check your water quality often when feeding meat. Meat isn�t the carrier. It is the stress put on fish when feeding meat from all the organic matter in the water. You should add salt & raise oxygen levels in addition to a higher temp for treatment. Uncontrollable or recurrent infestation with protozoans like ick are indicative of husbandry problems.



Rogue	Jun 29 2009, 08:46 PM Post #15
Dogg at the Gate...Parasam.. Gate..Bodhi...Svaha Posts: 2,443 Group: Global Moderators/ Team RUS Member #3,422 Joined: August 19, 2007	Lucky Jun 29 2009, 07:56 PM ProvidersInc Jun 29 2009, 05:59 PM Lucky Jun 29 2009, 02:14 PM nikitanain Jun 29 2009, 08:12 AM As far as I know Food cannot cause ich, it is an infection.... Bacteria and other organisms live in all tanks and when the immune system of the fish gets suppressed, the fish becomes susceptible to problems.... Yes 100% correct! We are pretty sure it is from the raw meat mixture we created. Every tank that we fed with the mixture Ich apears. Fish ick is caused by stress and the fish�s immune system. Definitely check your water quality often when feeding meat. Meat isn�t the carrier. It is the stress put on fish when feeding meat from all the organic matter in the water. You should add salt & raise oxygen levels in addition to a higher temp for treatment. Uncontrollable or recurrent infestation with protozoans like ick are indicative of husbandry problems. 88* F seems to be the sweet spot . Kept there for 7 days and no more ICH here ever again. At this temp the life cycle is sped up immensely and the ICH can not multiply. Just don`t half step as there have been temp resistant strains found
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Josh	Jun 29 2009, 10:29 PM Post #16
4" Juvies Posts: 458 Group: Members Member #12,435 Joined: June 4, 2009 Favorite Strain GM/KGM/Malau Residence Washington State	Just wondering but is it possible to get ich from too much water changes? We try to keep our tanks emaculate so we do a 25% percent water change every single day. I mean i never had before but since i have 3 extra sets of hands we figured why not and just do water changes everyday to keep crystal clear water and have no poop on the floor... could this be a reason?



petah	Jun 29 2009, 11:57 PM Post #17
FHRUS Posts: 5,442 Group: Global Moderators/ Team RUS Member #99 Joined: September 12, 2006	Josh Jun 29 2009, 10:29 PM Just wondering but is it possible to get ich from too much water changes? We try to keep our tanks emaculate so we do a 25% percent water change every single day. I mean i never had before but since i have 3 extra sets of hands we figured why not and just do water changes everyday to keep crystal clear water and have no poop on the floor... could this be a reason? yea you should do your water changes once a week or once every 2 weeks..
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